Fellowship With Transgenders

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Gender dysphoria isn't something new. It was a recognized mental aberration for
quite a while before it became a cultural trend.

There is an abundance of information available for parents to assist them in
steering their children away from becoming artificial boys and girls, but although
the information is very helpful, parents' biggest challenge to date is coping with the
legal, medical, educational, and political powers working to take parents out of
parenting, even to the point of construing it "abuse" for parents to interfere with
their underage child's interest in permanently altering their gender before nature
has been given adequate time to mature their bodies, their minds, and their spirits.
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FAQ: Should Christians shun transgenders?

REPLY: Absolutely not!

Transgendering isn't specifically addressed in the Bible, viz: it's a gray area, and as
such ought to be approached in accord with the 14th chapter of Romans which
says, in so many words, that we are not permitted to engage Christian transgenders
with debating nor abuse them with judgmental criticism.

Transgendering is a rough road to travel due to embarrassing therapy regimens;
and side effects, complications, negative public opinion, doubts, regrets,
disappointment, and mood swings that many would rather not talk about. So be
especially careful with your dialogue so as not to push them to the point where
you'll be forcing them to maintain their poise with fibs.

A little empathy, and a whole lot of tact and courtesy, can be very useful in helping
someone get thru the day, ergo: don't become a hell for transgenders, instead,
become a haven because people really ought to feel safe with Christians instead of
wary.

● Matt 7:12 . . So in everything: do to others what you would have them do to you.
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Beware of profiling!

For example it is the personal belief of some that if you're a white man, then you
are automatically a toxic male. Is that true? No, of course not, because not every
white guy is a bad person; in point of fact: quite a few white guys are very decent
folks. You see; profiling fails to take into account an individual's personal
characteristics.

In the same vein, not every transgender person is militant, nor are they all political
activists, nor are they all together unified to poison the minds of young children. In
point of fact, many of the transgenders I've reviewed on YouTube are anxious to
warn children about the hazards associated with altering their sex.

Therefore I highly recommend dealing with transgenders on an individual basis, i.e.
one at a time, viz: should you meet with a transgender, resist jumping to
conclusions-- first get to know that person before deciding how best to classify their
thinking because if there is one thing on this earth that everybody despises it's a
prejudiced bigot, and too many Christians I encounter online are exactly that.
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If you ask me: the real sinners in the world of transgender are the parents, and the
supposedly competent adults in education and the medical professions, who get
kids as young as 12 and 13 started on cross-sex chemicals which in time have the
potential to end in sterility, early-onset menopause, and irreversible changes to a
kid's physical characteristics.

The tragedy of it all is that quite a few youngsters are experimenting with
transgendering while too young to fully comprehend the gravity of what they are
doing to themselves. For example when pre-pubescent girls are told they may
never be able to have children of her own should they choose to go the distance
with transgendering, many don't care because they haven't matured enough yet to
perceive what it's like to be a mommy. Pre-pubescent girls often view children as a
messy nuisance.

And then there's also the permanent loss of libido; which is a loss common to both
boys and girls. Pre-pubescent kids have yet to experience full-on libido and thus are
unable to appreciate its value in adulthood.

For example; my first experience with chemo-therapy for esophageal cancer
quenched my normal libido considerably; and I began regarding women as
unsanitary beasts rather than the alluring creatures they're meant to be. Well; I
was very relieved when my libido got back up to speed after completing chemo, but
kids who pursue transgendering to the max quite possibly will never even get to
have a taste of that particular fact of life.

So-called "informed consent" isn't possible with pre-pubescent kids because they
just simply aren't old enough yet to appreciate the risks. For example: we were
babysitting a good friend's little girl one evening while watching Michael Jackson
perform on the television. Teen-age girls in the audience were screaming and
weeping; so our friend's little girl wanted to know why they were crying like that.
My wife explained: "When you get older; you'll understand" Well I can just about
guarantee that with enough cross-sex chemicals in their systems (e.g. testosterone
and puberty blocker) little girls will never be old enough to understand and thus
they'll miss the star-struck excitement that makes a growing girl's teen-age years
so special.
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Probably no entertainer understood a child's need for acceptance better than
Mr. Rogers.

Herein are the lyrics to one of his songs-- addressed to every kid watching his show
regardless of age, race, and/or gender. It's sort of self explanatory; so I offer no
comments to go with it.

I like you as you are.
Exactly and precisely,
I think you turned out nicely;
And I like you as you are.

I like you as you are.
Without a doubt or question,
Or even a suggestion;
Cause I like you as you are.

I like your disposition,
Your facial composition,
And with your kind permission,
I’ll shout it to a star.

I like you as you are.
I wouldn’t want to change you,
Or even rearrange you;
Not by far.

I like you.
I L-I-K-E Y-O-U
I like you, yes I do.
I like you, Y-O-U,
I like you: like you as you are.
Music and Lyrics by Josie Carey & Fred Rogers
© McFeely-Rogers Foundation.
All Rights Reserved.
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FAQ: Why do the transgender movers and shakers insist upon starting children as
young as 12-13 on the road to changing their sex?

REPLY: The thing is: in order for transgenders to successfully pass as women,
and/or successfully pass as men; they pretty much have to begin making changes
to their body in sync with nature's puberty clock; which presents a relatively brief
window of opportunity.

Should they begin transitioning after the window has expired-- say at 17 or 18 --
their body will very likely be stuck in whatever physical configuration nature gave
it. In other words: transitioning girls will be stuck with hips and a soft appearance
etc, and transitioning boys will be stuck with whiskers and a rugged appearance
etc.

So timing is crucial in the transgender process; which can actually work to a
parent's advantage. If moms and dads can manage to keep their underage children
off of cross-sex medications during those critical puberty years, it will become
much easier in the long run to persuade them to stay as they are because adult
boys and girls are typically lots more sensible, and a lot less impressionable, than
those in the 12-13 range.
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Eve was first to taste the forbidden fruit, and when she did; nothing happened.
She went right on unashamed in the buff the same as before, viz: it wasn't till
Adam tasted the fruit that Eve became sensitive about her body's appearance
naked.

Now the thing is: Eve was constructed with material taken from Adam's body, but
she was already fully formed and fully sentient prior to his tasting the fruit so it was
too late for Adam's eating to effect Eve by means of heredity.

So: if Eve's feelings about her naked body weren't altered by means of the fruit, and
if her feelings weren't altered by means of heredity; then by what?

Mr. Serpent is the logical source (a.k.a. the Devil & Satan, Rev 20:2) He has the
power of death (Heb 2:14) and the ability to tamper with the human body and the
human mind in ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke 13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2.

The Serpent was apparently all set and ready to wield his power the moment that
Adam crossed the line and ate that fruit. It amazes me how quickly it takes effect.
Not long after Adam tasted the fruit, he and his wife both immediately set to work
cobbling together some rudimentary aprons to cover their pelvic areas.

FAQ: So you think this Devil of yours has something to do with the current wave of
gender dysphoria?

REPLY: Yes.

FAQ: The entire gender dysphoria mechanism? --educators, students, psychiatric
counselors, medical professionals, parents, and various government agencies at
State and Federal levels, etc --are caught up in some sort of paranormal master plan?

REPLY: Yes.

* Ironically the progressive element in our midst is called "woke" when in reality
it is actually under the influence of a very powerful kind of hypnosis about which
we thus far know very little; and you hot-shot pulpit pounders out there need to
be very careful how you behave yourselves in talks with these folks.

"The Lord's servants must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone. They must be
able to teach effectively, and be patient with difficult people. They should gently
teach those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people's hearts,
and they will believe the truth. Then they will come to their senses and escape from
the Devil's trap. For they have been held captive by him to do whatever he wants."
(2Tim 2:23-26)
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A full transgender process typically includes psychiatric counseling, cross-sex hormones,
puberty blockers, and specialized surgery. Unfortunately the results of a full process
aren't always satisfactory, rather, quite disappointing as patients sometimes find
themselves saddled with inconvenient side effects and unpleasant complications.

To top it off: thus far the process has been unable to replicate real men and
women. No; at best the process has managed to produce only artificial men and
women that don't function near as well as patients were led to expect.

But that's not all-- there's also the afterlife to consider, which has the potential to
make transgendering a futile expenditure of one's resolve.

● John 3:1-2 . . Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a
member of the Jewish ruling council. He came to Jesus at night and said: "Rabbi,
we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the
miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."

Pharisees in that day were very pious men-- typically educated, and highly
respected. To my knowledge, this man was neither gay nor afflicted with gender
dysphoria. So considering his qualities; Jesus' response is very curious.

● John 3:3 . . In reply Jesus declared: "I tell you the truth, no one can see the
kingdom of God unless he is born again."

The Greek word translated "again" basically means from above. In other words,
Jesus wasn't speaking of a ritual or a sacred rite; no, he was speaking of an act of
God.

The thing to note is that this particular act of God isn't optional, rather, it's required,
i.e. there are no exceptions and no exemptions to this rule regardless of one's
moral perfections and/or imperfections, and regardless of age, race, religion,
social/financial/political status, and/or gender identity.

● John 3:7 . . You must be born again.

We're all equals in that respect, therefore:

● Rom 15:5-7 . . May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give you a
spirit of unity among yourselves as you follow Christ Jesus, so that with one heart
and mouth you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Accept one
another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God.
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Thus far my comments have been relative to folks who've undergone a full
transgender process; which typically includes psychiatric counseling, cross-sex
hormones, puberty blockers, and specialized surgery.

I am very tolerant of those people, whereas I am greatly discontented with guys
competing in women's sports whose bodies fail to display even the slightest
hint of femininity, i.e. they are not taking cross-sex hormones, nor have they
undergone any of the appropriate surgeries.

In my judicious estimation: guys insisting they are women while still in possession
of their full and complete natural manhood, are frauds and shameless cheats right
down there in the dirt with the lowest of wolves in sheep's clothing we might name.

I would recommend not only shunning a Christian man who competes in women's
sports solely on the basis of his "identifying" as a woman, but to avoid all association
with that guy-- both in church and out of church --lest his churlish scruples rub off
on us.

● 1Cor 15:33 . . Do not be misled: Bad company corrupts good character.
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Gender dysphoria is definitely a complex and evolving topic. It’s true that more resources and information are available now to help parents support their children through these feelings. But it can be challenging for parents who feel their role in guiding their children is impacted by external pressures. Legal, medical, and educational shifts are aiming to protect young people's rights, but these changes can sometimes make parents feel sidelined, especially when it comes to decisions about permanent changes. Balancing the need to support kids' exploration and self-identity with allowing enough time for natural growth is a nuanced and important part of parenting today.
 
In the US half of transexuals will attempt suicide. Those who are on this trajectory may not be open to considering Christ or truth early on. However, there can be a point where one becomes more open. If someone becomes filled with shame or regret, they may be open to hearing about the love and forgiveness available in Christ.

For parents whose children may be playing with these "vain imaginings" (Rom 1:21) these can be very pleasurable and even addictive. Being "affirming" can seem to show endorsement. However, there are other options that being condemning. For example, explaining the dangers of self deception, seeing videos of those detransitioning, or to observe the mockery for those who try to mimic the opposite sex.

This is a powerful snare of Satan. Parents who see their children caught in it can find an intense prayer life.They can gently and consistently try to dissuade. However, like with alcohol and drugs, being there and accessible can help should they come to repent and like the prodigal father parents can help them recover.
 
Another snare of Satan is the number of babies born physically and mentally wrong.
These babies obviously decided in the womb they would be crippled or retarded.
 
Health challenges of all sorts may be associated with the change to human life span limited to 120 years after the flood. Our biological changes as well as the environmental changes may have been a result of God forcing us to work together and care for each other in a survival mode. The natural state of humans is selfishness.
 
timf said:
Health challenges
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Human health started being affected as soon as the vapour canopy was lost during the flood and UV rays reached us.
Also from the flood GOD said it was OK to eat animals, birds and fish which has lots of risks to our health.
 
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